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The Mentoring Room - Ask the Working Pros

This is a Public Topic geared towards first-time filmmakers. Professional members of The D-Word will come by and answer your questions about documentary filmmaking.

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Mark Barroso
Wed 12 Nov 2008Link

In reply to Robert Shore's post on Wed 12 Nov 2008 :

One more thing about exposure. If you are going to use it in film that becomes well-known then your exposure increases. If it's for some fraternity gag film night then not likely. You getting the idea?


Marianne Hjorth Nielsen
Thu 13 Nov 2008Link

Hi D-Word,

I would like to get some advices or creative ideas on how to finance films through the internet.


Le Sheng Liu
Sun 16 Nov 2008Link

Thomas:
Have you googled Sundance Documentary Fund? There are plenty of grants programs out there, but that's the first one off the top of my head, and it's actually VERY competitive. What you should also do (if you haven't already) is become a member of the International Documentary Association. They offer fiscal sponsorship to many indie docs, so you can accept donation$ through them!!! Check them out at:
http://documentary.org

Robert:
If you wanna use that footage, you still need a release from the subjects who appear in it, including the Joe Schmoe who happens to be the bf of the girl who uploaded it. Also, as far as ownership goes, I think that could be a battle between the person who shot/uploaded it and Youtube, but I don't know of Youtube having any sort of exclusivity policy, so if you can get your hands on the original footage, use that instead. Youtube video quality sucks anyway!
http://www.youtube.com/t/privacy
http://www.youtube.com/t/terms

Marianne:
Check out this blog from my friend. She's edited many major projects and has some good insight on how to get your film out there on the web.
http://documentaryinsider.blogspot.com/2008/08/online-distribution.html

Good luck to you guys!! Email me if you like'd more info!!!


Robert Shore
Sun 16 Nov 2008Link

Thanks for all your help on the youtube issue. Like so many things, it's clearly unclear. Another question (sorry, kind of learning as I go on this project): I'm thinking about investing in some HD cameras. I have the budget to buy something a bit bigger and fancier (thinking about the Sony EX1) and something a bit less expensive and more easily portable (maybe the Sony A1U). I am concerned about the compatibility of the images. Does anyone have any experience with this? Will the images flush visually if cut end to end? Thanks again,

Rob.


Sam Rabeeh
Sun 16 Nov 2008Link

In reply to Mark Barroso's post on Thu 13 Nov 2008 :

Hi Mark, you can reply on anything. I'm open to advice especially the cinematography as I had difficulty keeping things framed and even making decisions on framing as "everything was happening at the same time".


James Longley
Tue 18 Nov 2008Link

In reply to Marianne Hjorth Nielsen 's post on Thu 13 Nov 2008 :

I think your question is too general. What kind of film are you talking about?


Charles Acrie
Sun 23 Nov 2008Link

I have personally been funding my own documentary project and I have run out of funds. When I began the project I really didn't know how extremely detailed I would have to be to complete it. In the beginning I was just thinking of a way to make money, but when I began to understand what it took to create a quality project I knew that I might be in over my head. I hired and trusted someone who I was told knew what they were doing. All that happened was I got cheated out of money. So I got my own camera, a Sony FX1 and a mac pro lap top and began to shoot my own project. I am about 80% complete but just need funding to complete it. How would I go about getting funding for it?

Edited Sun 23 Nov 2008 by Charles Acrie

Doug Block
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

Friends and family are the usual starting points, Charles. Then there's everyone you know. Probably not what you wanted to hear, right? Anyway, would help to know what your doc is about.


Christopher Wong
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

charles, if your doc has an obvious social issue associated with it – e.g., education, civil rights, poverty alleviation, global warming – then there are a host of foundations and film organizations which have grant programs available. if your doc does not have any such link to social issues, then you'll find the grant world pretty slim pickings.

for minority filmmakers like you and me, there are always film orgs like NBPC (National Black Programming Consortium) that have grants available. these grants, however, are highly competitive.

for you, the best thing to do would be to make a fundraising trailer (2-5 minutes) and show it to individuals and other organizations who can either fund you, or put you in contact with others who can.


Charles Acrie
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

I'm looking for answers Doug, those I want to hear and those I don't. I'm actually going through that short list of people right now. My documentary is entitled, MODERN DAY GANGSTA "Hood Pollitics". It's about a small community in Long Beach California that is occupied by two gang factions, the Insane Crips and the Rollin 20 Crips. They share the same streets, the same friends and families, the same history. They are so closely related that they could be considered family, in some cases they are, and they are killing each other at an alarming rate. The funerals are numbing and have become common. The questions are many but the answers are few. There is no real justice for the families. The code of silence in the community is stifling. Young black men are being put away for the rest of their lives. The danger in shooting this project is real and frightening, but it's a story that must be told.

I have done time in city and county jails, state and federal prisons. I was a product of everything that is wrong with that community, and although I was never involved with either of the two gangs, I was a part of the same social and psychological retardation process that has affected many in that part of the Long Beach community.

I have a Sony FX1 and a mac pro laptop computer. I have hired a professional to do the final edit. I have accumulated a great deal of footage and I'm clear on the direction of the doc. I have a young man from each gang and telling the story through their eyes. They still have gang affiliations, however they have become community activsts, have great jobs and are willing to put themselves on the line to get this story out.

What I like about this site is that it is so informative. If you take the time to read over the many questions and answers from other Enthusiasts and Members, many of your questions will be answered, not to mention the plethora of sites posted. It's absolutely amazing and I truly appreciate all of the information and I want to thank you for allowing people like me to be a part of such a worthwhile site.

Thanks Christopher for the advice. I read the comment you wrote on Monica's 10 minute trailer and I found it quite informative. I will check out the NBPC and I'm confident that my documentary will comply with some of the criteria they are asking for. When I read the comment you sent to Monica it made me take a closer look at my own. Keep up the good work brother and thanks again.


Christopher Wong
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

you're welcome, charles. looks like you have a wonderful project – and it sounds much more compelling than the "MADE IN AMERICA" doc recently done by Stacey Peralta. since you have the insider perspective, i can't help but think that NBPC would be interested. also, in addition to NBPC, you should also apply to ITVS. btw, if you are a first time filmmaker, you will probably be obligated to pull an experienced Executive Producer on board in order to qualify for funding. but with your storyline, that shouldn't be a problem. best of luck!


Doug Block
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

Sounds like a very strong project, Charles, as Chris says. The very first thing you should do is apply for full membership in The D-Word. It will give you access to all the discussion topics.

Edited Mon 24 Nov 2008 by Doug Block

Charles Acrie
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

I truly appreciate your comments Christopher. I may have someone with experience to attach to the project for the purpose of getting funding. When I was in Federal prison I would lay on my bunk submitted because it is difficult for me to trust people since one of my scripts was flipped to make Chris thinking of ways to make money doing what I liked doing. I had already written several scripts, none Rock's HEAD OF STATE. I figured the simple thing to do was to produce a documetary, distribute it straight to DVD and make money. The problem was that making a documentary would be more complicated than I thought it would be. My editor expressed to me that if I wanted him to edit the project, lending his name to it it would have to follow protocol and he suggested that I watch countless documentaries. I started shooting the project in 2006 and I must say that it has been a learning experience. The one thing that I understand is that there is no second chance to make a first impression so I have been very patient. This site has been God sent. Thanks again Christopher

Thanks Doug I wanted to apply for full membership but didn't know if I qualified. I will apply immediately.


David Mcilvride
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

Charles you say you're 80 per cent complete and you need the other 20 per cent ... what is left that will take 20 per cent? Music compposition? Mix, color correction, etc. that kind of things. There might be contacts that can help with the completion if we know what you're needing.


Charles Acrie
Mon 24 Nov 2008Link

You know what's funny David? I thought I was about 80% completed but after joining this site I may be about 60%. I have about 75 hours of footage. I have already paid for the editing. I have worked out the music composition. I just need to shoot more of the principles in my project and pic up some more equipment and pay the cameraman shooting the B role. Any advice you have I am open for it. Thanks a bunch.


Thomas Golaszewski
Tue 25 Nov 2008Link

In reply to Le Sheng Liu's post on Sun 16 Nov 2008 : Thanks for the information.I will look into those groups. I'll keep you posted on my progress.
Tom


Julianna Brannum
Tue 25 Nov 2008Link

Charles, you should definitely be in touch with Stanley Nelson from Firelight Media in NYC. He told me he has just launched a mentoring initiative for minority filmmakers and is looking for folks to mentor. He is absolutely invaluable.

Also, once you've got a trailer together, send it to him and he'll offer some advice on who to approach for more funding. And if you're really lucky, maybe you could get him to come on as Exec. Producer.
He's not great on email, so I suggest you give him a call and introduce yourself. Their number is 212.234.1324. Web address is www.firelightmedia.org.
Good luck!


Charles Acrie
Tue 25 Nov 2008Link

Thanks Julianna, I will be sure to give him a call. I do have a trailer but I want to make it more professional.


Erica Ginsberg
Tue 25 Nov 2008Link

Charles, also suggest if you are not already connected to sign up for Doculink. I believe they do work in progress screenings of trailers from time to time which may be worth looking into. Fellow D-Worder Robert Bahar is the Doculink Guru, so you may also want to talk to him. There's another group in the L.A. area now doing WIP screenings, but I think they are more focused on rough cuts. Plus D-Word now has a Vimeo channel where you can post for feedback here. I'm sure Doug can post the link since it escapes me at the moment.


Doug Block
Wed 26 Nov 2008Link

Charles, The D-Word has a Group on Vimeo here

And a Channel here

To get your films on The D-Word channel, join the Group and add your films to it and member Mike Patterson will automatically add them to the channel.


Mansi Behal
Wed 26 Nov 2008Link

Submit your short film to "The Party" competition at Filmaka.com and you could win funding to direct your feature-length script! 15-20 filmmakers win $1500 to $4500 each month – 3 of those go on to compete for feature funding at the end of the year! Entries must be 1 to 3 minutes long and are due January 12, 2009. More info at
www.filmaka.com/featurefilm


Le Sheng Liu
Thu 27 Nov 2008Link

In reply to Erica Ginsberg's post on DOCULINK WORKS-IN-PROGRESS :

Yes that is true. LA Doculink hosts about one or two (or maybe even more) works-in-progress screenings by its members. We call it the 10x10 because ten submissions are selected for screening and discussion. I don't know when the next one is, but I recommend all D-Worders join Doculink anyway. It's a great resource just like D-Word!!!


Diane Ingino
Wed 3 Dec 2008Link

Hi everybody,
I just posted a question in one of the members-only forums, but thought I'd come here and pick the brains of the general populace. I'm trying to help put a panel together for a talk in NYC on filmmakers' experiences with digital distribution. I need to get some more viewpoints on the topic.

If you – or anyone you know – is making any money with digital/online distribution of a documentary, please contact me: nycdiane "at" gmail "dot" com. If not making money, how would you define success with digital distribution? Thanks!


Ari Mark
Tue 9 Dec 2008Link

Hi – think this is the best place to post this:

I'm about to go on a documentary shoot abroad. I'm relatively new w/shooting video and have a camera guy shooting on a Sony Z1 along with me.

I want a TOP end camcorder that I can plug a kick ass mic into to shoot great b-roll. Here's my question: which camera will give me the closest to pure HD image? I've been directed to the HDC-H100K. I'm thinking of buying it but it takes SD memory cards. Are these superior to tapes? If I edit in Final Cut Pro, will I be able to easily get all this footage from the SD cards w/o a problem? I've heard bad things about the cards...HELP. Thanks so much in advance.


Riley Morton
Wed 10 Dec 2008Link

my advice to you would be to figure out a way to bring a 2nd Z1u.
even if budget is tight, you can still buy one (used), and then sell it after for a net loss of a few hundred bucks probably.
this way, there is no problems with matching footage, etc. and if something goes wrong on your shoot with either z1, then you have a backup.
it also has XLRs which is the only way to work if you want to use a great mic.


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